Podcast Episode

Hospitality Over Hype with Chef Fabio Trabocchi

In this episode of Flavors Unknown, I sit down with Chef Fabio Trabocchi, the Michelin-starred Italian chef and visionary restaurateur behind a growing empire of acclaimed restaurants including Fiola, Fiola Mare, Del Mar, Sfoglina, and Seta su Ilma.

We dive into Fabio’s culinary roots in Italy’s Le Marche region, his early training under the legendary Gualtiero Marchesi, and how French techniques and global travel shaped his approach to modern Italian cuisine. You’ll hear why hospitality always comes before hype, how to create a culture that drives loyalty in the restaurant world, and what it takes to grow from one fine-dining restaurant into a globally respected brand.

This episode is packed with personal stories, sharp insights, and timeless advice—from how childhood foraging still inspires Fabio’s dishes to what he’d tell his younger self about ambition, balance, and learning through travel.

What you'll learn from Chef Fabio Trabocchi

  • 2:56 – Growing up in a sharecropper family and discovering farm-to-table before it was a trend
  • 4:29 – The culinary richness of Italy’s Le Marche region
  • 6:40 – A legacy ingredient: the story behind Formaggio di Fossa
  • 7:49 – How returning to Italy after 25 years reignited Fabio Trabocchi’s culinary DNA
  • 9:05 – The revolutionary impact of Chef Gualtiero Marchesi on Italian cuisine
  • 10:31 – Why French culinary technique changed his approach to traditional Italian cooking
  • 13:07 – The evolution of Fiola and what inspired its reinvention
  • 13:57 – How one restaurant blossomed into a six-concept hospitality group
  • 14:41 – Understanding the distinct DNA of Fiola Mare, Del Mar, and Sfoglina
  • 15:28 – Honoring Italian culinary tradition through Sfoglina’s pasta focus
  • 17:21 – The challenges of being both chef and CEO in a growing company
  • 18:55 – Fabio Trabocchi’s vision for scaling with soul
  • 21:24 – Why hospitality—not hype—is the heartbeat of his group’s culture
  • 22:20 – The subtle but vital difference between satisfying guests and making them feel special
  • 23:15 – The role of guest loyalty in long-term restaurant success
  • 24:48 – Rethinking work-life balance in a post-pandemic restaurant world
  • 28:04 – How the pandemic shifted public appreciation for the hospitality industry
  • 29:02 – Seasonality and regional cooking: how Italy’s geography guides his menu development
  • 32:10 – How childhood foraging memories continue to inspire creativity
  • 33:29 – What he’d tell his younger self about learning, risk-taking, and travel
  • 34:33 – Why living in a country—not visiting—is the only way to truly understand its cuisine
  • 35:56 – Balancing obsession for craft with maintaining healthy relationships
  • 36:23 – Chef Fabio Trabocchi’s top five restaurant recommendations in Washington, DC
  • 39:00 – His very Italian guilty pleasure food
  • 39:49 – The top 3 mistakes home cooks make—and how to fix them
  • 39:49 – Why stress is the biggest enemy of home cooking
  • 43:34 – Why he still dreams of cooking alongside Paul Bocuse
  • 44:50 – The worst career advice he ever received—and what he’d say instead

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